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		<description><![CDATA[Vanilde, I can&#8217;t figure out how your page is working so I&#8217;m commenting here. In stanza 1, what does Avison say about decided that too many live? In stanza 2, what does it mean to say the Presence &#8216;stings us alive&#8217;? In stanza 3, what seashores and territories are these? What does the use of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vanilde, I can&#8217;t figure out how your page is working so I&#8217;m commenting here.</p>
<p>In stanza 1, what does Avison say about decided that too many live?</p>
<p>In stanza 2, what does it mean to say the Presence &#8216;stings us alive&#8217;?</p>
<p>In stanza 3, what seashores and territories are these? What does the use of the modal &#8216;may&#8217; show?</p>
<p>In stanza 4, why is it costly to know others?</p>
<p>in stanza 5, how does the Presence counter quantity?</p>
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		<title>To Counter Malthus</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[To Counter Malthus, by Margaret Avison   This poem, To Counter Malthus,  Margaret Avison  wrote it to criticize the Malthus‘ idea that population, when increased in a geometrical ratio and subsistence for man increased in an arithmetical ratio. He wanted to say that the growth of population would be limited by the food supply. The increase [...]]]></description>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt;text-align: center" align="center"><strong><span style="font-family:"><span style="font-size: small">To Counter Malthus, by Margaret Avison</span></span></strong></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt 35.4pt;text-align: justify"><span style="font-family:"><span style="font-size: small">This poem, To <strong>Counter Malthus,</strong>  Margaret Avison  wrote it to criticize the Malthus‘ idea that population, when increased in a geometrical ratio and subsistence for man increased in an arithmetical ratio. He wanted to say that the growth of population would be limited by the food supply. The increase of the population would bring a great misery and penury and many people would die of famine.</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt 35.4pt;text-align: justify"><span style="font-family:"><span style="font-size: small">According Malthus, the population would avoid this disaster, principally the poor.<span>  </span>They would get marriage with strict sexual abstinence before marriage, else could commit abortion and infanticide, preventively to regulate the number of people in the world. <span> </span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt 35.4pt;text-align: justify"><span style="font-family:"><span style="font-size: small">Malthus was a pessimistic English economist and social scientist but was famous at to become known the ideas of him then he published the two main works that he wrote: <strong>Principles of Political Economy</strong> and <strong>Definitions in Political Economy</strong>.</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt 35.4pt;text-align: justify"><span style="font-family:"><span style="font-size: small">This poem,The Counter Malthus, is not concerned with the population’s social economic conditions like Thomas Malthus is, but shows the optimism and the solidarity among the people. The world is great and there is place enough for so many people that do to each other the things that they need.</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt 35.4pt;text-align: justify"><span style="font-family:"><span style="font-size: small">The hunger is a threat but Malthus doesn’t suppose that the technology and the advancement made in agricultural science allowed farmers to make greater using of their lands and to produce food in a big abundance to guarantee the life to everybody. If someone doesn&#8217;t have food it&#8217;s because of the wrong distribuition of wealth among the population.</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt 35.4pt;text-align: justify"><span style="font-family:"><span style="font-size: small">Margaret<span>   </span>Avison use a lively but energetic language to counter Malthus and talk that the presence get make safe the people in the churn of the Quantity.</span></span></p>
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		<title>Margaret Avison</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Margaret Avison Margaret  Avison was a Canadian poet. She was born in Galt, Ontario on April 23 1918, and she died in Toronto on July 31 2007, age 89 Margaret Avison could be considered a spiritual or metaphysical poet. Her father was a Methodist minister, but she converted to Christianity In 1963, at 63 years. She is [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignleft" style="FLOAT: left" src="Perfect presentation of the Welsh life, history and tragedy " alt="" /><img class="alignleft" src="http://images.theglobeandmail.com/archives/RTGAM/images/20070810/wavisonobit0810/avison_500big" alt="" width="265" height="191" /><strong>Margaret Avison</strong></p>
<address class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><span><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">Margaret <span> </span>Avison was a Canadian poet. She was born in Galt, Ontario on April 23 1918, a</span></span></span><span><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">nd she died in Toronto on July 31 2007, age 89</span></span></span></address>
<address class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><span><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">Margaret Avison could be considered a spiritual or metaphysical poet. Her father was a Methodist minister, but she converted to Christianity </span></span></span><span><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">In 1963, at 63 years. S</span></span></span><span><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><span><span style="font-size: small;">he is considered one  great religious poet<span style="font-size: 11pt;font-family:">. </span>The religiosity her </span></span></span></span><span><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><span><span style="font-size: small;">and her faith often inspired a lot of her work like </span><span><span style="font-size: small;">prose, articles and poetry that she wrote. Her works are characterized as intellectual and plannes, without hurry, combinning a sense of social worry, moral and religious values in her work.  Her books of poetry include <em>Always Now: The collected Poems</em>and <em>Momentary Dark.</em>  Margeret Avison won the Griffin Poetry Prize for her book <em>Concrete and Wild Carrot</em></span></span></span></span></span></address>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt"><strong> </strong><span><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><span><span><span style="font-size: small;"><strong>Attention</strong>: </span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt"> <span><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><span><span><span style="font-size: small;">You can listen the Margaret avison&#8217;s voice declaiming the poem: <strong>Rising Dust</strong> in the site: <a href="http://www.griffinpoetryprize.com/shortlist_2003.php">http://www.griffinpoetryprize.com/shortlist_2003.ph</a></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt"><span><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><strong><span><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">Rising Dust</span></span></span></strong> </span></span>  </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt"> </p>
<p style="TEXT-ALIGN: right"><img class="alignleft" style="float: left;" src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/2/1999788_adade4360b.jpg?v=0" alt="" width="326" height="346" />The physiologist says I am well over<br />
half water.<br />
I feel, look, solid; am<br />
though leaky firm.<br />
Yet I am composed<br />
largely of water.<br />
How the composer turned us out<br />
this way, even the learned few do not<br />
explain. That’s life.</p>
<p style="TEXT-ALIGN: right">And we’re in need of<br />
more water, over and over, repeatedly<br />
thirsty, and unclean.</p>
<p style="TEXT-ALIGN: right">The body of this earth<br />
has water under it and<br />
over, from<br />
where the long winds sough<br />
tirelessly over water, or shriek around<br />
curved distances of ice.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Sky and earth invisibly<br />
breathe skyfuls of<br />
water, visible when it<br />
finds its own level.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Even in me?<br />
Kin to waterfalls<br />
and glacial lakes and sloughs<br />
and all that flows and surges,<br />
yet I go steadily,<br />
or without distillation climb at will<br />
(until a dissolution<br />
nobody anticipates).</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">I’m something else besides.<br />
The biochemist does not<br />
concern himself with this.<br />
It too seems substance,<br />
A vital bond threaded on an<br />
as-if loom out there.<br />
The strand within<br />
thrums and shudders and twists.<br />
It cleaves to this<br />
colour or texture and<br />
singles out to a rhythm<br />
almost its own, again,<br />
anticipating design.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">But never any of us<br />
physiologist or fisherman<br />
or I<br />
quite makes sense of it. We<br />
find our own level</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">as prairie, auburn or<br />
snow-streaming, sounds forever<br />
the almost limitless.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt"><span style="font-size: 10pt;font-family:">                                                                         </span><em><span style="font-size: 10pt;font-family:">From Concrete and Wild Carrot, by Margaret Avison</span></em></p>
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		<title>The country Clergy&#8217;s Analysis</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[      R.S.Thomas was a welsh poet identifyed with the Welsh culture and he was member of a monastic order, so he wrote this poem showing about the memories of the past, but he have hope yet that in the future God will correct all wrong things what happened with them.      In the begining of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: left">      R.S.Thomas was a welsh poet identifyed with the Welsh culture and he was member of a monastic order, so he wrote this poem showing about the memories of the past, but he have hope yet that in the future God will correct all wrong things what happened with them.</p>
<p style="text-align: left">     In the begining of poem the poetry remember not very clear of men working in old rectories, priests perhaps. They are together in the same grave, covered by dusty and fungi. They represent the past of Welsh people that can desapear domenate by modern cultures. This poem is almost all of Thomas&#8217; work, it talk about two passions, the Welsh people and the Welsh landscape showed under his religious views.</p>
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		<title>The Country Clergy</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Country Clergy I see them working in old rectories By the sun’s light, by candle-light, Venerable men, their black cloth A little dusty, a little green With holy mildew. And yet their skulls, Ripening over so many prayers, Toppled into the same grave With oafs and yokels. They left no books, Memorial to their [...]]]></description>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span><span style="font-size: small"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman">I see them working in old rectories<br />
By the sun’s light, by candle-light,<br />
Venerable men, their black cloth<br />
A little dusty, a little green<br />
With holy mildew. And yet their skulls,<br />
Ripening over so many prayers,<br />
Toppled into the same grave<br />
With oafs and yokels. They left no books,<br />
Memorial to their lonely thought<br />
In grey parishes: rather they wrote<br />
On men’s hearts and in the minds<br />
Of young children sublime words<br />
Too soon forgotten. God in his time<br />
Or out of time will correct this. </span></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span><span style="font-size: small"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman">R. S. THOMAS (March, 1958) </span></span></span></p>
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		<title>Welsh History´s Analyses</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 11:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the past The Welsh were a power people and he was a favorit subjct to R.S. Thomas to write his poems. The R.S. Thomas&#8217;s poems. He was a clergyman, so he has a regilious views that is present in his works. The Welsh wave red for war, but they was defeated by enemy of tem. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the past</p>
<p>The Welsh were a power people and he was a favorit subjct to R.S. Thomas to write his poems. The R.S. Thomas&#8217;s poems. He was a clergyman, so he has a regilious views that is present in his works.</p>
<p>The Welsh wave red for war, but they was defeated by enemy of tem.</p>
<p>Whe Welsh people ran away and not found a segurety place. The king of them was betrayed and was died.</p>
<p>In the present the Welsh didnt&#8217;t forget the past the live grabled in the past and in the history and in the proud of them. They was not able to defends themself and now have only the crumbs of them life of the past.</p>
<p>*Uau!&#8230; I&#8217;m sorry. I wanted to say:  attached, i.e, fix one thing in another thing. In this case, the Welsh are living in present, but they are still remember of the past.</p>
<p>In the end of this poem shows that the Welsh people have a hope of to arise again and to live  a different history and they not will leave the future of them desapear. This poem is a good presentation of the Welsh history and of the its people. </p>
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		<title>Welsh History</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Welsh History We were a people taut for war; the hills Were no harder, the thin grass Clothed them more warmly than the coarse Shirts our small bones. We fought, and were always in retreat, Like snow thawing upon the slopes Of Mynydd Mawr; and yet the stranger Never found our ultimate stand In the [...]]]></description>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="font-size: 10pt"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman">We w<em><span style="color: #000000">ere a people taut for war; the hills</span></em></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><em><span style="font-size: 10pt;color: #000000"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman">Were no harder, the thin grass</span></span></em><span style="font-size: 10pt"><br />
<span style="font-family: Times New Roman"><em><span style="color: #000000">Clothed them more warmly than the coarse</span></em><br />
<em><span style="color: #000000">Shirts our small bones.</span></em><br />
<em><span style="color: #000000">We fought, and were always in retreat,</span></em><br />
<em><span style="color: #000000">Like snow thawing upon the slopes</span></em><br />
<em><span style="color: #000000">Of Mynydd Mawr; and yet the stranger</span></em><br />
<em><span style="color: #000000">Never found our ultimate stand</span></em><br />
<em><span style="color: #000000">In the thick woods, declaiming verse</span></em><br />
<em><span style="color: #000000">To the sharp prompting of the harp.</span></em><br />
<em><span style="color: #000000">Our kings died, or they were slain</span></em><br />
<em><span style="color: #000000">By the old treachery at the ford.</span></em><br />
<em><span style="color: #000000">Our bards perished, driven from the halls</span></em><br />
<em><span style="color: #000000">Of nobles by the thorn and bramble.</span></em><br />
<em><span style="color: #000000">We were a people bred on legends,</span></em><br />
<em><span style="color: #000000">Warming our hands at the red past.</span></em><br />
<em><span style="color: #000000">The great were ashamed of our loose rags</span></em><br />
<em><span style="color: #000000">Clinging stubbornly to the proud tree</span></em><br />
<em><span style="color: #000000">Of blood and birth, our lean bellies</span></em><br />
<em><span style="color: #000000">And mud houses were a proof</span></em><br />
<em><span style="color: #000000">Of our ineptitude for life.</span></em><br />
<em><span style="color: #000000">We were a people wasting ourselves</span></em><br />
<em><span style="color: #000000">In fruitless battles for our masters,</span></em><br />
<em><span style="color: #000000">In lands to which we had no claim,</span></em><br />
<em><span style="color: #000000">With men for whom we felt no hatred.</span></em><br />
<em><span style="color: #000000">We were a people, and are so yet.</span></em><br />
<em><span style="color: #000000">When we have finished quarrelling for crumbs</span></em><br />
<em><span style="color: #000000">Under the table, or gnawing the bones</span></em><br />
<em><span style="color: #000000">Of a dead culture, we will arise</span></em><br />
<em><span style="color: #000000">And greet each other in a new dawn</span></em><br />
<em><span style="color: #000000">Armed, but not in the old way.</span></em></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span style="font-size: 10pt"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman">R. S. Thomas (1913 &#8211; 2000)</span></span><span style="font-size: 10pt"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman"><br />
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